Halllooooo Vanguards!!!

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Halllooooo Vanguards!!!


burkett 12-21-2006, 1:36 PM
Anyone home? (or conscious?) WAKE UP!!!!

Just stopping by to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year.

Bless every one of you.




1957 - 1964

Re: Halllooooo Vanguards!!!


jgrosso 12-21-2006, 10:20 PM

Hello Dave!  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours as well.  I noticed your's was the first post in months on this forum - why do you suppose more people don't use this to keep in touch?  There are other web groups I follow that have several posts per day or more, but our beloved Vanguard alums seem to be "chat-room-challenged".  We know you're out there because we see you at the reunion gatherings, Bill O'C's band gigs, etc..  Why not drop a line here every once in a while so the rest of us know you're OK - particulary those folks who don't live in the Chicago metro area?  OK, repeat after me: "My New Year's resolution will be to contribute one post a week to the Vanguard forum!"  Hey, it could happen.   Do your part - contribute!

Take care all of you,

Jim Grosso 1960-68

Re: Halllooooo Vanguards!!!


burkett 12-22-2006, 9:27 AM
Good to hear from you Jim. Are you still singing/performing?

I agree that this forum is an ideal place for the old VGs to congregate, and don't understand the reluctance to participate.

I frequently peek at the forums in hopes of communicating with others of the Red persuasion.

Don't be shy folks. Stop by and say hello.

-Dave Burkett 1957 - 64


1957 - 1964

Re: Halllooooo Vanguards!!!


jgrosso 12-25-2006, 6:27 PM

Hey Dave,

I'm not out playing as much as I used to, but I did fill in with a Bluegrass band at a bar in Wilmette last week and got into a very interesting discussion with a guy in the audience during the break.  We started out talking about Bill Monroe and Earl Scruggs, and somehow ended up trying to decide if Leonard Bernstein was truly original, or just derivative of Aaron Copeland - you meet the most interesting people in North Shore bars!  I had heard from (I think) Larry Johnson that you were living out in South West Missouri.  I read somewhere that there are more full time working musicians in Branson than almost anywhere else in the US other than places like New York and Chicago with symphonies and opera companies etc.  Do you get out much to hear live music around your neck of the woods?  We're lucky in Chicago with Classical, Jazz, Rock & Roll, Blues, Latin, Country and pretty much any other type of music performance available on a regular basis. 

Hope things are going well with you and yours, and that you have a great year.  I'm still hoping we can get a few more people involved on the forum here - I guess we'll see how it goes.

Take care,

Jim 

Back atcha, Jim G.


burkett 12-27-2006, 12:05 PM
I must admit that although I live in the Branson area, I have never been to the city. It's kinda like the people in Lousiville who never have attended a Kentucky Derby, or Indianapolis residents who would never go to the Indianapolis 500.

I still have a deep and constant love of music. I like music of just about any genre you can name, but have found very slim pickings in the newer pop stuff. Yeah, I know, I'm a geezer.

I am considering acquiring a three valve baritone (bell front D&BC style - in Bb preferably.) so that i can join a community band. Unfortunately, I can't locate anything for less than about $350, and that's too steep for my retirement budget. Oh well.

I follow DCI a little via PBS and CDs/DVDs. I am envious of those who participated with the RA reunion corps. I'll bet it was a lot of fun. I wouldn't be able to march (wheels are too old) but I think I could play fairly well.

When did you learn to play stringed instruments? I tried guitar. but lacked the patience to begin learning anything from zero.

I hope that you never lose your love of music. I know that I never will.

Any of you VG lurkers are welcome to jump in to this thread anytime you want.





1957 - 1964

Re: Back atcha, Jim G.


jgrosso 12-27-2006, 11:47 PM

Hi Dave,

To answer your question, I starting getting interested in stringed instruments around the time I started dating a female guitar player. Some coincidence, eh?  She had lived mostly in the South, so I gave her ice skating lessons and she taught me how to play guitar.  35 years later and our house is filled with 2 upright string basses, 3 electric bass guitars, 2 mandolins, a banjo, a dobro, a piano, a drum set, and I've lost track of how many guitars - at least 6 or 7. (oops - forgot about the xylophone).   All 3 of our son's played in bands for as long as I can remember, and still play regularly.  They're all out on their own now, and the middle one is a working musician in a pretty good touring band based in Iowa City called "Euforquestra".  Check out their web site when you get the chance - he plays vibes, steel drum and bass, and is having the time of his life.  Besides touring in the US, he has studied Afro-Cuban percussion in Cuba, and did an extended tour of Taiwan with a steel drum band.  He had to turn down a trip to Trinidad with the steel band because he was working on his Masters in percussion at the University of Iowa. Do I sound a little jealous??? 

The guitar came to me at a time when I'd hit a wall with my horn, and couldn't seem to get any better.  I couldn't figure out what the problem was at the time, and was getting frustrated because if anything, I was getting worse instead of improving.  Looking back in 20-20 hindsight, it was really pretty simple.  I don't know if you remember, but I was a fairly mediocre horn player in the early 60's, and then one day Ed Morrissey brought in Lou Voss to work with the sopranos.  One year later I was a soloist and winner of the Horn trophy at the annual Vanguard banquet.  I continued to improve until the 1967 season, and then really stagnated.  Coincidentally, Lou and Ed quit as our horn instructors in 1967, and the person who could have helped me work through the problems in my technique wasn't available anymore.  A good teacher is priceless, no matter what the discipline.

I really hope you find a baritone some time soon - I'll keep my eyes and ears open around here and let you know if I come across anything.  We all seem to have this itch that can only get scratched in a musical ensemble.  It's almost metaphysical I think, involving things like trust, striving toward a common goal, the whole being greater than the sum of the parts, etc..

How about you other VG Alums out there - can anyone hook Dave up with a reasonably priced 3 valve Bb baritone??    

Great teachers, etc.


burkett 12-29-2006, 10:50 AM
Sounds like you've got the talent, and the equipment to form your own orchestra. I hope you've got a big place. All of that equipment takes a lot of room. I'm glad to hear that your kids all had the benefit of music in their lives. My son took piano lessons for many years, but never really caught the music performance disease. He's a big music fan though.

Your comments about the influence of instructors hit home with me. I began playing under Johnny LoBue in 1958. He taught me a lot of good, basic stuff that I probably wouldn't have learned sitting in an ensemble. Ed Morrissey taught Bogie and I a lot about scoring music, and reading at a higher level. Being a big horn person, I didn't have the benefit of Lou Voss's tutelage, although I witnessed the vast improvement in the soprano line. He was a great guy.

I think that the VG, in 1967 joined the ranks of many other top-tier corps in that they no longer taught people how to play, but instead relied on recruiting more advanced players. Bill Sorgatz still taught a few beginners in his little Saturday morning group.

I'm kinda giving up on my quest for a baritone. I don't have the coin to spare, and have other priorities that must be funded.

I've been blessed over the years to have worked with a lot of good teachers. They're rare, and usually underappreciated.


1957 - 1964

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